My translation of the summary from https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 8/17 (Saturday).
Note: I try to repeat the Japanese thread as closely as possible here. Where I do make some editorial additions I’ll put them in [ ], though I do occasionally soften the posters’ tone.
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377: LillyRush :2019/08/17(土) 22:13:46
★8月17日(土)①
・新潟でNGT訴訟資料を閲覧した人の話
https://i.imgur.com/ctCfaaU.png
▽NGT 訴訟資料の閲覧に新潟に来ました!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C6NdH7MAdc
▽被告は2人。名前も住所も閲覧記録では消されて分からない状態にされている
▽おそらく弁護士がついている。プロが作る答弁書だった
▽請求額が3千万円なので、弁護士には1割の3百万円を着手金として支払っているだろう
【AKS側の主張】
▽犯人が山口さんを襲った時に、メンバーの人が駆けつけ、その後にスタッフ3人が駆けつけて、犯人も合わせてバスの中で話し合いが行われた
▽その時に犯人が繋がりのあるメンバーの名前を挙げた。名前を挙げたことによって、山口さんがメンバーが指示を出したんじゃないかと疑いを持った。
▽それが原因でメンバーとAKSとの信頼関係が失われて、山口さんが卒業するような羽目になり、様々な公演ができなくなり、ファンやスポンサーが離れていった
▽それは、犯人が確たる証拠もなく繋がりのあるメンバーの名前を言ったからだ
(といった内容。それはどうなのという感じはする by 動画主)
▽その時に犯人たちは、「いつも遊んでる女の子たちがいて、ご飯とか食べて、そういう流れの中で山口さんのところに行くという話になったんだ」と
▽後でスタッフたちと話をしたときも、「いま繋がってるメンバーたちは よその所にいて、他の子と一緒にいるから今連絡をとってるんだ」と、そういった事が書かれている
▽それに対してAKS側は、一生懸命 調べて、メンバーにも色々な事情聴取をしたけれども、結局 事件について指示したという明確な証拠とか、そこまでは分からなかった
▽もし繋がりがあったとしても それは個人的なことであって、事件の指示を出したのか分からない以上、処分することは出来ない。プライベートなことだ
【動画主がどうしても納得できない点】
▽なんと防犯警備にあたったその費用、2月が250万、3月が300何万かかったと。それが犯人たちのせいだとして損害賠償として請求してる
▽そもそも防犯警備がシッカリしてないから変な輩が入ってきて襲われているんだから、防犯警備代をAKSが負担するのは当たり前なのに、犯人に請求するのは筋違い
▽そもそもAKSが大切なメンバーを守るために金払えよ
▽さらに呆れてしまうのが、その結果 防犯ベルを持たせることになったと。1個2千円くらいで全部で40人くらいメンバーがいるから計8万円かかってる。それも犯人に請求してる
▽クソの役にも立たなかった第三者委員会の代金4500万円の一部も請求してる
▽何でもかんでも犯人に損害をなすり付けているが、損害が発生してる大きな原因は、その後のAKSの対応があまりにも悪くて、山口さんたちにシッカリ寄り添って事件の対応をやらなかったがために公演できず、ファンやスポンサーも離れた
▽責任の大半はAKSにあるのに、スポンサーに対して自分のアリバイ作りのために訴訟を行ったりして、とうとうNGTは通常運転しますと言っているが本当にこれでいいのか?
378: LillyRush :2019/08/17(土) 22:16:45
★8月17日(土)②
・NGT劇場が壁の写真を変える(以前は山口真帆、長谷川玲奈の写真が正面にあった)
https://i.imgur.com/WRx6QBC.jpg
以前の壁の写真
https://i.imgur.com/HD2bxDt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OCfTGpu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NNwRowg.jpg
・AKSが厄介と繋がっていて変わる気が全くないという話
https://i.imgur.com/JZqRSKY.png
・長谷川玲奈が23日にShowRoom開催
https://i.imgur.com/x1R7mmK.png
▽公式レポーター長谷川玲奈さんボイス特訓企画!配信とイベントも!
http://jashinchan.com/news/724
・長谷川玲奈が出演した夏サバト お写真&ミニレポート
http://jashinchan.com/news/700
・長谷川玲奈のツイートと、菅原りことの会話
https://i.imgur.com/jGmh5xT.png
https://i.imgur.com/Vb6Pxsy.png
https://i.imgur.com/wJiq1LH.png
https://i.imgur.com/CGzJoEI.png
https://i.imgur.com/P4LeGLU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NWaxFx3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M3CF3fw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gCQpttx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/staxzQZ.jpg
動画
https://video.twi mg.com/ext_tw_video/1162509446423015425/pu/vid/720x540/jEmAkyzTxTW40rLx.mp4
379: LillyRush :2019/08/17(土) 23:52:25
★8月17日(土)【追加】
・【真偽不明】
▽加藤が「真帆のせいでNGTの株が下がった」と愚痴ってる
▽太野と北川はまだ付き合っている
https://i.imgur.com/Kn2ess1.jpg
・太野がインスタ再開
https://i.imgur.com/DyKSmCx.jpg
・村雲颯香フォトログ。写真の前列に西潟、荻野、太野
https://i.imgur.com/KqQOE8o.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w9UtZuN.jpg
・菅原りこツイート
https://i.imgur.com/hMZ6t1K.png
https://i.imgur.com/9rh6kNU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rAN8Eld.jpg
- Story from a person in Niigata that reviewed the NGT lawsuit materials
- https://i.imgur.com/ctCfaaU.png
- “I came to Niigata to inspect the NGT lawsuit documents!”
- Their are two defendants. Their names and addresses were erased from the available records and he couldn’t determine their current status.
- He’d say the attorneys are in luck. Their written responses are professionally-done.
- Since the amount claimed is ¥30M, the lawyers are probably being paid 10%, or ¥3M, as a retainer fee.
- AKS’s Claims
- When the defendants assaulted Yamaguchi, a member rushed to be there, after that three staff members rushed there as well, and then they all got together with the defendants and had a discussion on a bus.
- At that time, the defendants brought up the names of members that they had relationships with. As these members names were brought up, Yamaguchi came to suspect whether these members had given instructions.
- Because of that suspicion, the relationship of trust between AKS and the members was lost resulting in Yamaguchi graduating, [NGT] being unable to conduct various performances, and losing both fans and sponsors.
- So, this is all because the defendants said the names of those members they had relationships with without any proof.
(This is what the documents said. At least this is the impression of the man posting the video.) - At the time, the defendants said: “There are girls we’re always playing around with, eating and such with, and so we went to Yamaguchi’s place to have a talk in the vein of those sorts of things.”
- It was written that later when there were discussions with the staff, things like, “Right now the members connected with this are in other places, and since they’re with other kids, presently we’re getting in contact with them.” were said.
- Also regarding the AKS side, though they conducted a thorough investigation, and had various interviews with the members, in the end they didn’t find any clear evidence that there had been instructions given with regard to the incident.
- If it is assumed those relationships were just personal encounters, since they were unable to find that instructions about the incident were given, they are not able to carry out any punishments. They are private matters.
- Points that the video poster still can’t understand
- How they arrived at the cost of the security guards, contracted at ¥2.5M for February and some ¥3M for March. That this is the fault of the defendants is how the restitution is being claimed.
- It’s the guards not being reliable in the first place that allowed strange people to come in and carry out the assault, so it’s reasonable that AKS bears the cost of the security, but a bit absurd to be charging the offenders.
- From the start AKS has paid for the protection of its important members.
- Something even more shocking, regarding the crime prevention alarms given out as a result of this. Each one is about ¥2000, so as there are about 40 members in all, it requires ¥80k total. This is also claimed against the defendants.
- They are also claiming part of the ¥45M cost of the completely useless 3rd party committee.
- Each and all of the damages received are being pinned on the defendants, but the main source of the damages was that AKS’s response afterwards was so bad; they couldn’t hold performances because they didn’t deal with the incident by properly standing by Yamaguchi and the others, and fans and sponsors left.
- Though most of the responsibility lies with AKS, with regards to sponsors making up their own alibis because of the ongoing litigation, are they really ok saying NGT is finally operating normally?
- The NGT theater changes their photo wall (previously there were photos of Maho and Rena in the front)
- Post that AKS is tied to the yakkai, and has no intention of changing that
- Rena will be hosting a Showroom on the 23rd
- https://i.imgur.com/x1R7mmK.png
- From Jashin-chan’s website: “Official reporter Hasegawa Rena’s voice training program! Broadcast and event!”
- From Jashin-chan’s website on Rena’s performance: “Summer Saturday — Photos & Mini Report”
- Rena’s tweets and conversation with Riko
- (Rumors)
- Kato has been complaining “the reason NGT’s stock has fallen is because of Maho”
- Tano and Kitagawa are still dating
- https://i.imgur.com/Kn2ess1.jpg
- Tano resumes Instagram
- Murakumo’s Photolog. Nishigata, Ogino, and Tano are in the front row of her photo
- Riko’s tweet
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