A joint translation with @speranzom, who was generous enough to provide the Takken Taro part from the summary https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 11/9 (Saturday).

Note: I try to repeat the Japanese thread as closely as possible here. Where I do make some editorial additions I’ll put them in [ ], though I do occasionally soften the posters’ tone.

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589: LillyRush :2019/11/09(土) 21:23:08
★11月9日(土)

・長谷川玲奈ストーリー
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・宅建太郎:NGT48 記憶を頼りに準備書面を復元「矛盾だらけ被告主張」N0 7
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2hXrm-eNbI

 ▽ここでの甲は「かいせー」
 ▽甲はNGTメンバーに顔見知りが多い
 ▽犯人は斜め前に住んでいるのに、厄介の仲間に何時に帰るかとか時間を確認する作業をするのがよくわからない
 ▽(5)には「襲うつもりなんてなかったんですよ、あくまでも廊下で話すつもりだったんですよ」という印象を与えるようなタイトルが付いている
 ▽そもそも山口さんを驚かせないためには最初から玄関の前で待っていたほうがよかったんじゃないの?
  向かいの部屋に隠れて山口さんの部屋に一緒に入ろうとした、という疑念を感じさせるような事をしないで、玄関前で待ってたほうがよかったんじゃないですか?
 ▽(山口氏がドアを閉めてしまったので、声をかける機会を逸してしまうと焦り)
  意味がわからない。
  ドアを閉めても山口さんはドアの向こう側にいるんだからチャイム鳴らして「話をしたいんですけど」と言えばいい話
 ▽(咄嗟にドアに手をかけ引っ張り、山口氏がドアを締めるのを妨げた)
  恐怖ですね、身の危険を感じたと思いますよ。場合によっては強姦とか殺人だってある
 ▽(山口氏は恐怖心からパニックに陥ったと思慮される)
  悪いことをしておいて、冷静に私は分析してますよみたいなのが非常にムカつきます
 
 ▽(ドアを引っ張り合う形になった)
  山口さんのこめかみを掴んだことは認めていないんですね
  犯人側が証拠も見せず「やってませんよ」と言っても信用力が低い
 ▽(「僕だよ、◯◯だよ」と言ったら引っ張り合いは終わった)
  終わったかもしれないですけど恐怖で終わったんじゃないですかね
  被告2(北川)は笠井の声で止めたかもしれないが、山口さんは自主的に止めたんじゃないんじゃないでしょうか
 ▽(事故のファンが訪ねてきたことがわかり、多少は落ち着いた)
  そんな事は全然ないと思いますよ。
  ドアを開けようとするやつがいて、僕だよと言って現れたのが今までストーカーみたいなことをやってきた犯人なわけですよ。
  そんな奴が現れて相手の戦力が2倍になって、落ち着くわけがない
 
 ▽(山口氏の怒りはおさまらず、被告1[笠井]に対して「どうしてDを推してる被告2がいるの。やっぱりDと繋がってるんでしょ。誰と繋がっているの。全部言いなさい」と言ってきた)
  個人的な意見を言いますと、捏造だと思います ハッキリ言って。
 ▽これをそのまま信じるならば、山口さんが怒ってる理由というのは
  「なんで推しメンがDである被告2が私のところやって来るの。行くんならDのところじゃないの。」
  「ということは被告1さん、あなたもDが好きなんじゃないの、私というものがありながら」
  ジェラシー、嫉妬で私は怒ってるんですよと山口さんが言うと思います?
 ▽怒ってる理由は嫉妬じゃない。襲われて命の危険があったから怒ってる。
  何で他のメンバーにと、このシチュエーションで有り得るわけないじゃないですか
 
 ▽(山口氏の誤解を解かなければならないと考えた)
  この誤解とは、山口さんが被告1が他のメンバーに気があるんじゃないのと誤解してると。
  それを解かなければならないと考えたらしいんですけど、何を言ってるんですかね。
 ▽山口さんの誤解を解かなければならないと本当に考えたのなら
  その誤解とは「他のメンバーと繋がっていると疑っていること」なので
  この後の展開で絶対に他のメンバーと繋がっているなんて言わないですよね
 ▽この準備書面、前半部分に関しては かなり鋭く原告の主張を否定したりして ちゃんと真っ当な弁護活動をしているが
  途中から 被告の主張からは支離滅裂で何を言っているのかよく分からない。
  本当に同じ人が書いたのかと疑うような内容といっても過言ではない

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590: LillyRush :2019/11/10(日) 01:49:55
★11月9日(土)【追加】

・菅原りこツイート
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  • Rena’s Instastory
  • Takken Taro: “NGT48 Reconstructing the defendant’s preparatory papers with the help of memory, “The inconsistency-ridden assertions of the defendant” No. 7″
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2hXrm-eNbI
    • Inside here, “Man #1” refers to Kaisei
    • So, this Man #1 has many NGT members who know him by face
    • Anyway, I don’t quite understand the whole procedure of verifying and relaying to his yakkai pals about what time she would be back home, what with the fact that the culprit was already living in the room diagonally in front of hers.
    • About point 5 of the list, it really has a title (*) to it that is meant to give the impression that “He had no intention of assaulting her. He simply and only intended to have a talk in the hallway”
      • (* “On the discussion between Defendant #1, Defendant #2 and Miss Yamaguchi in the hallway before room #303 in the building in question)
    • For one thing, if they meant to avoid frightening Yamaguchi-san, wouldn’t it have been preferable for them to wait in front of the entrance all along?
      • If so, wouldn’t it have been wiser if they had been waiting before the entrance, without giving off any suspicions that they hid in the room on the other side so as to break in together into Yamaguchi-san’s room?
    • (In the document: Miss Yamaguchi then closed the door of the apartment, and the man was nervous that he missed his chance to speak up to her)
      • This one makes no sense
      • Even if Yamaguchi-san had already closed the door, you could just ring her bell and say “Excuse me, I wanna have a talk”, considering you are on the apartment on the other side as her door.
    • (In the document: By promptly pulling the door with his hand, he then prevented miss Yamaguchi from closing the door)
      • That’s a frightening scene. I can only imagine how she felt in danger for herself. Depending on the circumstances, it may as well have been a rape, or a murder attempt.
    • (In the document: Being concerned that Miss Yamaguchi had fallen into panic from the sense of fear)
      • This way of saying “I have committed something scary and now I am going to analyze it with a cool-head” is irksome to an exceptional degree
    • (In the document: This turned into each other pulling the door their own way)
      • As it turns out, they aren’t admitting to the fact they grabbed Yamaguchi-san’s head
      • Even if the culprit side says “We haven’t done that”, without showing any evidences, their believability is low
    • (In the document: When he said “It’s me! I’m …!”, this act of pulling open and closed then stopped)
      • It may have stopped, but it still ended in fear, don’t you think?
      • Defendant #2 (Kitagawa) may have been stopped at Kasai’s call, but isn’t it that Yamaguchi-san did not stop it on her own accord?
    • (In the document: Realizing that it was a fan of her own coming to visit her, she calmed down a little)
      • I find this claim to be absolutely false
      • And the reason is, you have a guy trying to pry open your door, and then the one who shows up exclaiming “It’s me!” happens to be the criminal who had been committing stalking acts until then.
      • With such people showing up, the fighting strength on the other opposite side doubles up, you certainly don’t calm down like that.
    • (In the document: Miss Yamaguchi’s anger didn’t wane, and confronting Defendant #1 [Kasai], she said, “Why is Defendant #2, whose oshimen is D, is there? I see, he’s consorting with D, right? Who are you consorting with. Say it all”)
      • If I may express my own personal opinion, I consider this part to be a forgery. To say it clearly.
    • But if we are to believe this at face value, then it means that the reason for Yamauguchi-san being angry would be like this:
      • “Why did Defendant #2, whose oshimen is D, come all the way to my place? If you have to go somewhere, shouldn’t you go to D?”
      • “Speaking of which, Defendant #1, you too like D? Even though you said it was me.”
      • Would someone really believe that Yamaguchi-san is claiming to be angry out of jealousy, out of envy?
    • Of course the reason for being angry isn’t out of envy, she is angry due to her life being in danger as a result of being assaulted
      • Why making it out to be as if it’s something against other members? Don’t you find that such a situation is improbable?
    • (In the document: Here, he thought about how he needed to dispel miss Yamaguchi’s misunderstanding)
      • The misunderstanding being that Yamaguchi-san apparently mistakenly thought that Defendant #1 had a liking for other members.
      • And so he allegedly thought he needed to dispel that. What the heck he’s saying?
    • If he really thought about dispelling Yamaguchi-san’s misunderstanding,
      • even considering that the misunderstanding apparently was “She was suspecting he was consorting with other members”
      • then he would have avoided saying they were associating with other members, like it unfolded later
  • Riko’s tweet

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