A joint translation with @speranzom, who was generous enough to provide the Takken Taro part from the summary https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 11/10 (Sunday).
Note: I try to repeat the Japanese thread as closely as possible here. Where I do make some editorial additions I’ll put them in [ ], though I do occasionally soften the posters’ tone.
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591： LillyRush ：2019/11/10(日) 21:26:56
★１１月１０日（日）①
・AKSの人と付き合いがある人のブログ
▽厄介は新潟でやりたい放題だったがお咎めがなかった
▽寮に部屋を借り、３分の１以上のメンバーが繋がりを持った
▽それに「おかしい」と声を上げ「止めさせて欲しい」と声を上げたのが山口真帆さん
▽その声はAKS本部にも届いていたが、AKSは山口さんにいい感情を持っていなかった
▽「チクられた！」と気づいた一部メンバーは「山口さんを懲らしめてやろう！」と考えた
▽そこで仲の良い「アイドルハンター」を煽った・・・というのが「真実」です
https://i.imgur.com/FyoY7iB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AIMVzQG.png
https://i.imgur.com/uNSoms3.jpg
▽元NGT48 山口真帆暴行事件の「馴れ合い」裁判！いつまで続く？真帆さんを困らせないでほしい。
https://ameblo.jp/misaki9674/entry-12543784526.html
・長谷川玲奈ツイート
https://i.imgur.com/ipeIJSh.png
https://i.imgur.com/lhBD5od.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yNqwSrl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6k69Pxj.png
https://i.imgur.com/M5ULvmS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GtCBigv.jpg
・本間日陽モバメ「わたしはこの一年でいちばん大切なものを失いました」
https://i.imgur.com/0S0vkGs.png
https://i.imgur.com/LhiqDrg.png
https://i.imgur.com/NJtjXmF.png
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https://i.imgur.com/5anxyZK.png
592： LillyRush ：2019/11/10(日) 21:28:03
★１１月１０日（日）②
・宅建太郎：NGT48 602号室と314号室「賃貸借契約書」の考察
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10RcTuaGdsM
▽AKSがちゃんとした対応をとらなかった為に、公演が中止になったとか世間の評判が落ちたという主張や証拠を提出するのは有効で、それは反論になり得る
▽しかし賃貸借契約書を出したからといって、原告側からの主張の反論には全くなってない
▽今までも山口さんとの繋がりをかなりのページ数を割いて なぜか被告は主張している
▽山口さんとの繋がりを立証てきたとしても暴行行為自体の否定もできないし
他のメンバーの名前を出したことについても、他のメンバーと繋がっていないという事の立証にもならないし役に立たない
▽メンバーの名前を出したこと自体が信頼関係を破壊したと原告側は主張してきているわけだから、いくら山口さんとの繋がりを主張したとしても原告の主張の否定にならない
▽全く被告側の反論になっていない
▽この賃貸借契約書の提出も全く反論になっていない
▽なんのためにこんな物を出してきたのか。仮に賃借人であったとしても全く反論になっていない
▽とりあえず不法侵入ではないという事の証明にはなる
▽役に立つとすれば、「太野は出ていって関係ないよ」と裁判所に対してではなく
世間・ネット世論に対して言い訳するために出してきてるんじゃないかという気はする
▽なんで被告が太野が無関係であると証明しようとしているのか不思議
▽それによって利益を得るのは原告側AKS
▽AKSは「黒メンバーはいなかったんだ。みんな白だ」と証明したい。
全ては山口さんの疑念疑惑で、全く問題なかったのに単なる疑いだけでここまで来てしまったんだと証明したい原告AKSの意思に適ったもの
▽なぜか被告側の反論になっていない賃貸借契約書を出すという行為に繋がっている
▽なぜか被告側は原告側の利益になるようなことを一生懸命やっているのか不思議でしょうがない
▽３１４号室は名義人としては犯人たちが借りてたんじゃないの？と推測している
事件当日、太野は賃借人ではなかったと想像している
▽被告・原告AKSが言うように、賃貸借契約の名義人がもし事件当時
犯人と賃貸借契約が締結されていたとしても、イコール太野の疑惑が晴れて真っ白になりましたとはならない
▽前の部屋は太野名義でなくなったとしても、依然として使っていたんじゃないの疑惑は残っていると思っている
▽SR配信でも部屋を使っていたんじゃないの？公演終わりに一緒にバスに乗って帰って来てるんじゃないか
▽もし引っ越していたらバスにも乗らないんだから、山口さんなどが引っ越しに気付かないはずがない
▽逆に他の人が賃借人ならば、すぐ近くの部屋なので日常生活の中でドアの前でバッタリ会ったりすることも十分考えられるのに、山口さんは何ヶ月も気付かなかった
▽前の部屋に関しては、契約上は太野は出ていったんだけど その後も何らかの方法で使い続けることが出来ていたんじゃないか。要するに出入りしてたんじゃないの
▽そもそも太野の引っ越しの理由は何なの？
▽引っ越して行くとき、他のメンバーに一言も告げずに後から「えっ！引っ越していたの？」という状況にする必要は特にない
▽太野と厄介犯人側の間で、家賃は払うから部屋を貸してくれないかという契約みたいなことが成立したんじゃないか
▽なぜ厄介側は２つ目の部屋を借りる必要があったのか
▽山口さんを襲う目的じゃなくて、女の子と遊ぶためのパーティールームだった？
▽１対１になりたい時のために２つ目の部屋が欲しかったんじゃないか
▽部屋を借りて、太野に使わせることで援助みたいなことが成り立ったんじゃないか
▽契約解除した後も太野はずっと部屋を使えてたんじゃないか
▽だから山口さんなども引っ越しに気が付かなかったんじゃないか
▽犯人は他に借りているマンションから事件当日に来ている。生活の根拠にしていない
▽だから契約書を出して私が借りていましたと言ったところで、太野が部屋を使っていなかった証明にはならない
▽他のメンバーに関して全くの白だと、山口さんの疑念に過ぎないんだということの証明にはならない
- Blog of someone associated with AKS
- The yakkai did as they wished in Niigata without rebuke
- Renting rooms in the dorm, having relationships with more than 1/3 of the members
- Yamaguchi Maho was the one to come up and say “this is strange”, and “I want this to be stopped”
- Her words reached AKS headquarters, but AKS did not have good sentiments towards Yamaguchi
- Some part of the members realized, “she’s tattling on us!” and thought, “let’s punish her!”
- So that’s how these intimately related “idol hunters” came about… that’s the “reality”
- https://i.imgur.com/FyoY7iB.jpg
- https://i.imgur.com/AIMVzQG.png
- https://i.imgur.com/uNSoms3.jpg
- “Former NGT48 member Yamaguchi Maho’s assault incident “conspiracy” trial! How long will it go on? I hope Maho won’t be troubled with questioning.”
- Rena’s tweets
- Homma Hinata’s mobame: “This last year I lost the most important thing”
- Takken Taro: “NGT48 Considerations on the “rental contract papers” of rooms #602 and #314″
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10RcTuaGdsM
- If only the defendants had instead brought up proof and statements to point out that it’s because of AKS not taking the proper measures that their theater shows were halted and their reputation in the eyes of the public plummeted, it would have gone to their own benefit, and would have constituted a rebuttal
- However, even though they have brought out the rental contract papers, it doesn’t even begin to make for a rebuttal of the claims from the plaintiffs
- Then again, it was always so, what with the defendant side spending several of their document’s pages to claim any association with Yamaguchi-san, for some reason
- Even if they ever managed to make a case about consorting with Yamaguchi-san, they cannot begin to deny the assault act itself as such
- Even about the fact they let out the names of other members while at it, this doesn’t make a case that they aren’t consorting with other members, which makes the whole operation useless
- Thus, this doesn’t constitute a rebuttal by the defendant side in the least
- Submitting those rental contract papers serves as no rebuttal whatsoever, either
- For what purpose did they even bring out this stuff, then? Even if they happened to be the tenants, it doesn’t make a valid rebuttal at all
- Tentatively, this can serve as an evidence that there was no unlawful trespassing involved
- If we assume it’s of any use, it’s not to show to the court judge
“Look, Tano left and she has nothing to do with this”,
the feeling you get is rather that they are bringing it out to make an excuse aimed at the general public and popular opinion on the Internet, instead
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- It’s curious why it’s the defendants that would testify that Tano is unrelated to this
- The ones who would benefit from this would actually be the plaintiff side, AKS
- AKS after all wants to testify that “There’s no guilty members, everyone is innocent”
- It just complies to the agenda of the plaintiff, AKS, which wants to show how everything is all Yamaguchi-san’s misgivings and suspicions, of how there were no problems at all but it is only due to these doubts that things developed to this point
- In this case, this would tie in with the fact that the defendant side would somehow bring out these rental contract papers, even though it has no value as a rebuttal
- Indeed, one can’t help finding it dubious how the defendant side for some odd reason is vehemently acting in a way that is only going to the benefit of the plaintiff’s side
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- One is left to assume if room #314 was borrowed by the perpetrators in their own name
- In turn, it leads one to guess that, on the day of the incident itself, the tenant didn’t happen to be Tano
- Even if, as both the defendants and the plaintiff (AKS) claim, at the time of the incident the name on the rental contract papers happened to be that of the culprits
it doesn’t means this equals the suspicions about Tano being cleared and making her completely innocent
- Even if the room in front wasn’t signed to Tano’s name anymore, doubts still remain if she kept using it just as before
- By which it means, didn’t she still use that room for her Showroom broadcasts? Or didn’t members return home together by bus after the ending of theater shows?
- Then, she wouldn’t have rode all the way there on the bus if she had moved out, and as such there’s no way that Yamaguchi-san and the others wouldn’t have realized she moved out
- If, vice versa, the tenant was another person, it would be quite as easy to also imagine meeting each other by chance in front of your doors during your everyday life, what with being an apartment right next to yours. Yet, Yamaguchi-san and the rest didn’t notice it for months.
- So, for what it concerns the room in front, while in terms of contracts Tano’s name didn’t show up, couldn’t it be that by some way or another she could keep using it even afterwards? In short, that she had access inside of it?
- For one thing, what’s the reason for Tano moving out?
- There’s no particular necessity that, when she supposedly moved out, she decided not to say a word to inform the other members, with them going “What? She moved out?” afterwards, as the situation was.
- Could it be that, between Tano and the yakkai culprits, a sort of agreement was stipulated, like “I’ll pay the rent fee, wouldn’t you let me borrow the apartment sometimes?”
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- For what reason would it be necessary for the yakkai side to borrow yet another room on the same building, after all?
- Does it mean that this was supposed to be a sort of party room, not one for the purpose of assaulting Yamaguchi-san, but to have fun together with the girls?
- Did they want a second apartment for those times they wanted to have a one-on-one moment with them?
- And by renting the room and then letting Tano use it, wouldn’t it constitute a form of patron relationship?
- Should we assume that even after the contract was rescinded, Tano was then free to continually use that room?
- Wouldn’t this be why Yamaguchi-san and the others then didn’t notice about her moving out, then?
- Even the culprits admittedly first walked out of another apartment they had rented to the other one. So this means it’s not intended to be a place for everyday living.
- Therefore, even if they bring out the rental papers and say they did rent it themselves, it isn’t anything that testifies Tano didn’t use that room as well.
- Likewise, it is not a demonstration that, concerning the other members, everyone is innocent and that this is nothing but misgivings on Yamaguchi-san’s part
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