A joint translation with @speranzom, who generously provided the Takken Taro part from the summary https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787 for 12/6 (Friday).
Note: I try to repeat the Japanese thread as closely as possible here. Where I do make some editorial additions I’ll put them in [ ], though I do occasionally soften the posters’ tone.
- Maho’s Instastory Q&A
- Watanabe Ayusa interview article
- From Rooftop: “Watanabe Ayusa — SHOWROOM and “Shinjuku Loft Plus One” Image Model Audition Grand Prix”
- Rena’s tweets
- 2019 NicoNicoPedia report: “Some people can’t forgive AKS for the assault of Yamaguchi”
- NGT will release a dating simulation game “NGT48物語” [NGT Story]
- https://i.imgur.com/ClfiJND.jpg
- The scenario and systems
- Official site and Twitter
- In the Nogizaka board on 5ch, “AKB-like” is being used to mean “probably connected to otakus”
- Takken Taro’s video: “NGT, Explanatory pamphlet for the set-time rental of “room #314″, all fields details on the application form”
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEYC3LLO3fk
- So, I have received the application form from the sub-leasing company itself
- First, I’d like to refresh your memory a little:
The defendant, that is the culprit side, presented as an evidence document at the trial that is a “photo of the rental contract certificate for room #612” — a photo, for some reason - As for room #314, it’s not even a rental contract certificate that they produced, but an “explanatory pamphlet for a set-time rental”
- What is this explanatory pamphlet all about? At around what stage is it issued? There must have been lots of people with these questions in mind, right?
- In the explanation received over the phone, the gist was that the they would be taking contracts simply via phone conversations,
but as the discussion proceeded, the talk then went on to explain “We’ll send an application form in .pdf format, we’d like you sign and put your seal on it and then submit it to us”. - As such, the application form then arrived, and upon careful inspection, a so-called “explanatory pamphlet for a set-time rental” also came in issued with it.
- Signatures and seal stamps are necessary in the application form. It’s also written inside that once it’s officially approved you cannot cancel anymore.
In reality, then, it’s not just via telephone but the way it’s to be done has you writing down on document papers, and if it passes the screening test, then you can have it reserved. It’s not only via phone. - The process was quite a bothersome one. I was told that _one’s own personal ID certificates_, _phone number_ and _emergency contacts_ are absolutely necessary
- Also, as for the “contacts in case of emergency”: “if just a person, then a person owning a house phone”
“If it’s not a house phone, but a cellphone then two people or more are necessary”, and also “those persons’ ID certificates” are needed too
Also you must send in a “certificate of them knowing your own residence” - I was shocked at these procedures being so demanding even for being a building with a sub-leasing about one month long in term
I assumed that they could let you easily use the apartment straight away if you just paid the money necessary, only to find out it was unexpectedly hard - The culprits too must have been said to write in their relatives within three degrees of kinship for their emergency contacts. Friends or bosses are invalid, it has to be your own relatives
- Did the culprits also write in their own family members, before going on to borrow the room?
Then, such information would come up to the police, and with it they would have understood that they did rent the apartment, right?
Therefore, one can assume that even if they found themselves in the common hallway of the building, they could have just said: “That’s the reason we are here”, right?
— - The application form is something you proceed with the premise of getting a contract later one, it doesn’t mean that the contract is settled just yet.
Since, as things stand, it’s said that there’s a screening afterwards. This is the very, very first step in the process. It’s still in a state where the application hasn’t even been accepted yet. - Yet recorded among what they have received for the trial files is just an “explanatory pamphlet for a set-time rental” that the perpetrator presented
- I couldn’t personally get to view the trial evidence material, myself, but I’d really like to see if [the form Takken Taro was sent] matches completely with what was actually submitted as trial material.
- In terms of content details too, if it’s actually like I think it is.
— - (Picture of page 3) “<<Send back once you have read and understood what’s inside>> About set-time rental contracts”
From this part, it then gets to the “explanatory pamphlet for a set-time rental contracts” - I’ll have to wonder if possibly the passages about info on the building property and the ones about the set-time contract certificate are reported inside, and if they actually got caught in the photo.
- Even if it turns out the whole picture was captured inside the photo, there’d still be holes poked at the fact that, “That still doesn’t mean it’s rented yet?”, so maybe those parts didn’t get caught in the photo actually, did they?
- To say it the other way, if they did actually take a photo of the whole picture it would mean that people will find out they didn’t get to the point of having a contract.
So, one must wonder, maybe they went on and took rather a photo so as to avoid that it would be recognized as not being actually a contract documentation, by partially taking a picture of it. - It can’t be discounted that the judge would say “This doesn’t mean you actually stipulated a contract, so bring out the contract certificates as it’s supposed to be”. and so have a request issued on them to present additional evidences. But one of the speculations would be: “Will they be using yet another photo even then?”
- (Picture of page 3) Looking at the bottom we see fields for “Address”, “Contract signatory”, and “Seal”
In here, one is to put one’s signature and stamp and send it back, wait to have it examined, and if it gets okay’ed, they would get to the stage where they negotiate a contract, right? - Therefore, at this current stage, even if info about the desired apartment are filled in, and you are getting explained to about set-time rental contracts,
even if you took a photo of these parts, it still is not certain if you had the actual contract stipulated or not, that’s the question of it. - Also, at this stage, if you file a cancellation request, it wouldn’t cost anything in cancellation fees
Getting in possession of this application form too is free - On the basis of this, if they actually did present a thing like this as evidence,
it’s my opinion that this would be absolutely invalid as a proof that room #314 was rented to the name of defendant #1 (Kasai) - Even if, hypothetically, they put in his signature and stamp, you can still cancel it afterwards.
So that’s to say it doesn’t count as proof that the contract was signed - Presenting as proof what is just something that was sent to you while still at the application request stage
only would have the opposite effect of making people suspect: “What the heck is that? Is there anything they want to hide?”
- Images from Takken’s video
- Takken Taro’s tweets
- Found a Twitter account vehemently defending an ordinary person’s Instagram image being covered in insults [for complimenting Maho; yesterday’s summary], even though no one said anything bad about it.
- https://i.imgur.com/aRwfQtv.png
- For some reason this question was also asked on an attorney dot com site.
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